Hope x Vanille II: It's Still Better than Lightning x Hope
For Final Fantasy XIII on the Xbox , a GameFAQs message board game are probably homophobes with some issues they need to work out. Fang and Vanille's friendship is like sisters not lovers and same goes for. Oerba Yun Fang is a playable character in Final Fantasy XIII who appears as a In Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, Fang still greatly cares about Vanille but . Passing PSICOM Warmechs alert them that Snow and Hope are in trouble. I never even heard of people needing them to be lesbian lovers until Gaf. Click to I don't remember cat sith or aeris having the issue crisis ether. Harle is .. The final fantasy wiki lists Vanille at 19 and Fang at 21 in FF
Sorry, didn't mean to go on, but I just wanted to complain a bit I already did enough to my friends I don't wanna annoy them anymore. There's just that one scene where Fang and Vanille first reunite and they cry and hug and Fang looks under her skirt to check her brand. The gaming community sees this is as a lesbian thing because it's dominated by hetero guys who like to ship female-female relationships.
I couldn't do it" - Vanille User Info: We are very close we weren't when we were younger, but when I turned twelve my parents started homeschooling us and we started spending all our time together.
I won't go into too much detail, but a few years ago she got sick and almost died she had to have a blood transfusionand that just brought us even closer and really activated my maternal instincts.
It made me appreciate her even more and since then I always worry about her and make sure she takes care of herself so that she doesn't get sick again. Maybe this makes me sound like a loser, but in real life she's my only friend, and the only member of my family I really get along with. We live together, and since neither of us want to get married, we probably always will. My own relationship with my sister affects the way I see this, same as you.
I guess the degree of affection characters can express for each other without it having to have romantic connotations is different for me than other people because of how close we are. I mean, I would look at my little sister's leg without a second thought if my sis had a mark that was the only indicator of how long she had left before turning into a monster.
It's her leg, not her genitals. Since I haven't played the whole series yet I will keep an open mind, but a lot would have to change with the way their relationship is presented to convince me, especially since they've already said their relationship is sisterly.
Ladysoalluring Ladysoalluring 4 years ago 5 I am sorry to hear about your sister, I hope things life as it is stays stable for you two, and doesn't get that bad again. Official "Vanille" of the Dissidia Duodecim boards "To hate, to hurt, to destroy She's fine now, and she should stay that way as long as she doesn't neglect herself.
I wonder if SE had kept Fang a man if they would have described his relationship with Vanille as "brother and sister". If the game was exactly the same but just with Fang as a man and they called them "just like brother and sister", I would have thought that SE was telling me their relationship was platonic, not romantic, just like I do with our final versions.
Final Fantasy likes to draw on different mythologies, but they take bits and pieces. It's like Kain Highwind; he represents the biblical figure Cain and Cecil is his Abel, but not every aspect of their story matches Cain and Abel's.
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I'm tempted to go and spoil it since I probably won't get to play the last game for a while and it's fun to talk about, buuuuut I'll wait. Would you mind linking me to where they said the nature of Fang and Vanille's relationship was left open to interpretation? I don't doubt you, but I always ask for links. Iightningz Iightningz 4 years ago 7 I really don't think it's technically "confirmed" canon.
I wouldn't say they are that. Yet they didn't change the story of them much as I know, leading to some pretty far-fetched symbolism that implies they are a couple.
Characters of the Final Fantasy XIII series - Wikipedia
As a result Square probably doesn't know what to do about Fanille themselves. They wouldn't flat out deny it either, they would break the hearts of fans. They grew up together in an orphanage, and formed a sisterly bond.
Fang wanted to be a l'Cie, and Vanille tagged along. Fang basically protected her the whole time, and became Ragnarok alone because Vanille was too scared. However, both she and Sazh are captured by Jihl Nabaat. After Lightning and the party rescue the two, Vanille reunites with Fang.
On Gran Pulse, Fang regains her memory and remembers it was she who became Ragnarok, a monster designed to bring down Cocoon  during a conflict between the two worlds called the War of Transgression.
After the defeat of Orphan, she and Fang transform into Ragnarok and form a crystal pillar to prevent Cocoon colliding with Pulse. After this event, Vanille remains with Fang in crystal stasis within the pillar: She is dubbed a saint and lives in the city of Luxerion in the protective care of the Order, a religious organization devoted to the deity Bhunivelze.
After their parents die years prior to the start of the game, Lightning, then still called Claire, raises Serah and sets out to become a protector for her, but her devotion to that goal causes tensions between them. Eventually, Serah becomes engaged to Snow days prior to the start of the game, and Lightning strongly objects to their relationship.
Fang and Vanille...is it canon?
Serah eventually reveals to Snow and Lightning that, while exploring the Pulse Vestage where the fal'Cie Anima was kept,  she has been made a Pulse l'Cie. Serah reconciles with Lightning, who accepts her relationship with Snow afterwards. She is the only one who remembers Lightning being on Gran Pulse after she is taken to Valhalla, with all the others believing she sacrificed herself to save Cocoon. After Serah accepts Noel's offer to be brought to Lightning, the two embark on a journey across time to find her sister.
In the process, Serah encounters Caius Ballad, while learning from Paddra Nsu-Yeul that she possesses the same detrimental ability as her to see the future. Serah appears to Lightning in Valhalla as a spirit, telling her she knew that she could have died from her visions but still took the risk regardless. Serah promises Lightning that they will see each other again as long as Lightning promises to remember her. Early in the development of XIII, Serah was meant to be a playable character, but was eventually delegated to a supporting character because of technical issues.
After becoming a l'Cie and finding Serah in crystal stasis, he despairs and is forced to tame his Eidolon, the Shiva Sisters. Once Hope gets Snow alone, he unsuccessfully tries to murder him for his part in his mother's death and reconciles with him soon after.
Snow then reconciles with Lightning and receives forgiveness from Hope's father. His search would eventually result with him traveling through time while seeing Lightning in a dream telling him to protect the crystal pillar holding Cocoon, seeing a vision of the world's fate, and becoming a l'Cie once more with the Focus of fighting beside Serah at the final battle.
Serah and Noel come to Snow's aid and help him defeat it by negating the anomaly causing its growth.
With the threat gone, Snow entrusts Noel with Serah's care and dissolves from the moment in time while promising Serah that they will meet again.
In Lightning Returns, after being released from his imprisonmentSnow meets up with Noel and Hope before coming upon the city of Yusnaan and becomes its protector and patron.
He was designed around a motif of ice,  with his bandanna inspired by an unused costume element from Kingdom Hearts coded designed by Kamikokuryo. At the beginning of the game, Hope and his mother Nora, on vacation in the town of Bodhum, are selected for the Purge. Under Snow's leadership, Nora joins the resistance in the Hanging Edge, but falls to her death during the battle while trying to protect Hope and after saving Snow's life, which angers Hope greatly. After he becomes a l'Cie, and being separated from the main party, Hope follows Lightning to "toughen up" while plotting his assassination attempt on Snow for revenge.
When on Gran Pulse, he tells the others to leave him, afraid they will get hurt because of him, but inadvertently summons his Eidolon Alexander. After the defeat of Orphan, Hope tells Lightning that Fang and Vanille had changed their fate by fulfilling their Focus of transforming into Ragnarok to save Cocoon rather than destroying it.
He helps Noel and Serah in their journey to find Lightning when they arrive in his time. Other than knowing that time travel is possible and wishing to undo events of the past, Hope is planning on reviving Cocoon with a different power source.
Originally planning to create an artificial fal'Cie, he is dissuaded upon seeing a vision of Serah fighting his creation. When the old Cocoon does fall, Hope and Sazh manage to rescue Vanille and Fang from the crystal pillar before it crumbles.
His son, Dajh, is taken by the Sanctum in the aftermath of him becoming a Cocoon l'Cie three days earlier when Sazh bought him a chocobo chick. After the party splits up following Anima's defeat, Sazh goes with Vanille as he tells her about his son.
Unable to kill Vanille, Sazh unsuccessfully attempts suicide. Sazh and Vanille are then captured by Nabaat. Before Lightning's party rescues Sazh and Vanille, he reconciles with her for her role in Dajh's fate. After these events, Sazh leaves to help the civilians of Cocoon,  then decides to move onto Gran Pulse. Reuniting with Dajh and deciding to fight no matter what the future holds, they go through a time gate and help Serah and Noel in their battle against Caius. In Lightning Returns, Sazh has set up his home in the Wildlands.
After Dajh's soul is lost and his body falls into a coma, Sazh becomes tormented by his seeming failure to protect his son. In the May edition of Official PlayStation MagazineYoshinori Kitase said that Sazh was intended to be an Eddie Murphy -style comic-relief character as well as a sympathetic character.
Due to the character having the largest amount of dialogue in the game, an experienced voice actor was chosen for him. He was also named "Baz". The two wake from crystal stasis within the Pulse Vestige containing the fal'Cie Anima thirteen days prior to the start of Final Fantasy XIII, which in turn kicks off the chain of events that lead to Cocoon's descent into chaos.
She eventually meets Snow and becomes his partner as part of Cid's plan to overthrow the Sanctum, later befriending Lightning. After rescuing Sazh and Vanille on board the Palamecia, she and Vanille reunite.